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    Here is a spot to put charts of almost any MANUAL backtesting you've done. I will kick it off with a commerce in OCT. 2001 which was good for 292 pips...

  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    Correct me if I am incorrect. . .but aren't you suppose to shut from a position if you get a signal in the opposite direction? I see a couple places where you'd have gotten a lengthy sign after the short, that, based on Mouteki's principles, the brief sign should have been closed.

    Just an observation, and that I could be tottally incorrect.
    Correct me if I am incorrect, At PP of 292pips, Mr Mouteki imply a 3:1 SL so 97pips SL doesn't get activate commerce was legitimate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    Correct me if I'm wrong, At PP of 292pips, Mr Mouteki imply a 3:1 SL therefore 97pips SL doesn't get trigger commerce was valid.
    I'm not saying the SL has been triggered.

    As per Mouteki's rules, if we are short a position, and we receive a new signal in the opposite direction (a buy signal), then we close out of this brief, and open a position in the new leadership.

    Here is a copy of the chart that might help, I point out a couple of prospective buy signals after we take the brief (the black lines and lettering are what I have added):

    http://picnac.com/images/5505chart.jpg

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    Hello Daerus,

    Ofcourse You're correct. I must have signaled my thoughts about this particular trade to explain.

    Because the 14527 fracture was so significant, I would have had my stop over it. Now obviously that's easy to say in hindsight, but there it is.

    Either way, it is a winning trade, but you are right, per stringent Mouteki egy, a trendline break in the opposite direction would signal a change of position.

    Here is where discretion must be utilized in what is, to this point a largely mechanical procedure of entrance.

    Best regards,
    HK


    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    I'm not saying that the SL was triggered.

    According to Mouteki's principles, if we are short a place, and we get a new sign in the opposite direction (a buy signal), then we shut out of the short, and start a position in the new leadership.

    Here's a copy of that chart that might help, I figure out a few prospective buy signals after we take the brief (the white lines and lettering are what I've added):

    http://picnac.com/images/5505chart.jpg

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    Correct me if I'm wrong. . .but are not you suppose to shut out of a position if you receive a signal in the opposite direction? I visit a couple places where you would have gotten a lengthy signal after the brief, that, according to Mouteki's rules, the short signal should have been shut.

    Only an observation, and that I could be tottally incorrect.
    Would you tell me where did you read this? I think I missed something. On the other hand, if what you said is right, why worth to put a SL if sometime, between the beginning of the trade and reach of this goal, is a cease (reverse) sign? I think something is not right. If you start a trade, you have only two choices:
    - get to the target profit
    - get to the stop loss
    It doesn't seems to me to be very reliable to stop a trade only because you have a reverse sign. Since I study this technique on the charts, I saw winning transactions that missed SL with a few points. But I saw good signs which was in fact bad trades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    Could you tell me where did you read this? I believe I overlooked something. On the other hand, if what you said is right, why value to put a SL when sometime, between the start of the commerce and reach of the goal, is a stop(reverse) sign? I believe something isn't perfect. Should you start a trade, you have only two options:
    - get to the goal profit
    - get to the stop loss
    It does not seems to me to be somewhat dependable to discontinue a trade only because you have a reverse sign. Since I study this method on the charts, I saw winning transactions which missed SL with a few points. But also I saw great signals which was in fact bad transactions.
    Hello hans gregor,

    Mouteki employed this technique from the powerpoint presentation when he showed us that the backtest of July (I think it was July - that I don't have the presentation right now).

    Anyhow, the presentation is somewhere in the massive thread, I can not remember where, unfortunetely.

  7. #7
    Fantastic attempt HK, I'll continue to keep an eye on this thread and see how different the result will probably be from the automated backtesting.

    And, IMHO, when backtesting a method, we must follow the machine, not to add discretion, unless discretion a part of the machine. Otherwise it'll be analyzing our descretion rather than the system itself different tester will get various results.

    Keep up great work, I am sure lots of people require the result to confirm their positive on this particular system.



    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    Hello Daerus,

    Ofcourse You're correct. I must have signaled my thoughts relating to this particular trade to explain.

    Since the 14527 fracture was so significant, I would have had my halt above it. Now obviously that is easy to say in hindsight, but there it is.

    Either way, it is a winning trade, but you're right, per stringent Mouteki methodology, a trendline break in the opposite direction could signal a reversal of position.

    This is where discretion has to be used in what is, to the point a largely mechanical procedure of entry.

    Best Wishes,
    HK

  8. #8
    Daerus, I'll concur with you on this one. If sticks into Mouteki system, the sell will be closed with a small profit and the subsequent buy trade will soon be stopped out and probably eat all the profit from the previous trade.

    Of course if we play trendline break egy as HK said, we might endure the retesting of the TL and be a big winner, but that is only a general TL break system, or a modified Mouteki system.


    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    Hello Daerus,

    Ofcourse you are correct. I should have signaled my thoughts relating to this particular trade to describe.

    Since the 14527 break was so significant, I would have had my halt over it. Now obviously that is easy to say in hindsight, but there it is.

    Either way, it's a winning trade, but you're right, per strict Mouteki methodology, a trendline break in the opposite direction could indie a reversal of position.

    Here is where discretion has to be utilized in what is, to the point a mostly mechanical procedure of entry.

    Best Wishes,
    HK

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    Hello hans gregor,

    Mouteki employed this technique from the powerpoint presentation if he showed us the backtest of July (I think it was July - I do not have the presentation right now).

    Anyway, the presentation is someplace in the large thread, I can not remember where, unfortunetely.
    Thx. I found that I forgot to take a look at them since it was not posted following the move into the mouteki substance thread. Perhaps they will be posted by mouteki .

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    So, am I right in supposing that this post of a winning trade was a losing trade as per rules there could have been a reverse and close to a buy in the high?

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