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quote Mlawson71, I agree. An individual can have a perfect egy that would make money in the long run, but don't follow the egy due to the traders mindset. If I had to choose what comes first, mindset or egy? I'd say mindset, and then egy. Mainly because, if you have the ideal mindset, you will eventually receive a egy that's profitable. Trading is such a foreign field for nearly all of people emotionally, I feel that the biggest barrier is that the mindset and the willingness to adapt.