I'm glad I'm not the only on that thinks MT4 is clunky and complied. It is a lightweight appliion, that is accurate, but it takes too much work IMO to get it to do just what you would like it to perform (that is if it's even possible at all) and to me which takes off from my primary goal that's trading. I feel like with MT4, I spend time researching where to get that and this EA to perform basic things.