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  1. #11
    Thanks claude these are.

    I agree with you 100 percent on all that you have stated.

    I have been toying with this idea of dynamic mechanical. Where you change your system to fulfill with the market conditions, however, the sign to modify egy is mechanical as well. Of course, if discretion was unnesessary, we would all be earning 100 percent a month with our expert advisors.

    Another theme I have been interested in that I wonder if anyone knows about, would be the software that a few of the huge banks supposedly utilized in order to make moves. I think they probably have custom software. But it's something which is profoundly intriguing to me.

    Thanks and will the market always proceed with your position...

  2. #12
    Hello ManInBlack. I believe there is a danger of getting just too complex here should you keep the pursuit on the outside, instead of sorting out what is going on inside. I believe all of us understand that there is no'perfect system' on the market, since if there was, we'd barely be bothering with this forum, and the'imperfect' systems wuld have dropped by the wayside long ago. True safety in trading is something you have to develop indoors, and that's what so many of us avoid because it is simpler to read novels, follow gurus, learn ever more clever procedures and effectively trust that someone else can do it to us. They just can't!

    I discover that trading is one of the most graphic and immediate personal development courses on Earth. Once you are in the right place, you can exchange flawlessly (waits for the shouts of derision from the rest of the traders in the forum!) . Keep it easy, work on your own issues, what ever they may be, be truly present and utilize the easiest method it is possible to find.


  3. #13
    I concur with you, also that I was interested in your remarks concerning trading being a profoundly personal and present experience. It is pretty cool how it sounds you're talking about a spirtual approch.

    I am very conscious that over compliing matters can be counter productive. I've been working with Rob Booker, and there's no doubt that I am already setup to do very nicely with the simplest most effective style of trading there is. And I am disciplined enough to follow along.

    But at the exact same vein I am at risk of getting bored. this morning I listened to GG. Allin, Mozart, little richard, miles davis and then some slayer. I keep my passion alive in audio by opening up to everything that is possible. I know folks who get bored with music, and I just can't imagine that.

    Of course, here I am studying to fish. Something I will do in my no matter what, I am not looking for something that does not exist, I am looking for the best, and thoughts on what is the best.

    I am posting here to spark some debate on functionality. Pure pips. Pushing the envelope. Vegas system says it could internet 25000 pips on GBP alone per year. Is that the limitation on a trading? Is there a limitation on the number of pips it's possible to get? Why don't you push the envelope? Only because some guy somewhere is averaging 50 000 pips per year, does not mean I cant make 70 000. I think that there is a real split in this company, between people that are conservative, and like getting into a loion where they are happy, and many others like me that will never cease.

    My friend says he'll quit trading once he makes a few thousand. I won't ever cease, and I won't ever quit trying to do more, in every kind of money making egy, trading and otherwise, because it's my passion. It is fun.

    So the entire point is that there's a guy out there producing more pips than you. What can you do to be better? Why woulnd't you would like to?

    Thanks for your posts with this interesting (for me) subject

  4. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    I concur with you, and I was interested in your comments about trading being a deeply private and present encounter. It's pretty cool how it seems you are talking about a meditative or spirtual approch.

    I'm very aware that more than compliing matters can be counter productive. I've been working with Rob Booker, and there is no doubt that I'm already setup to perform very well with the easiest most effective kind of trading there is. And I'm disciplined enough to follow along.

    But in precisely the same vein I'm at risk of being bored. this morning I listened to GG. Allin, Mozart, little richard, miles davis and then some slayer. I keep my passion alive in audio by opening up to all that is possible. I know folks who get bored with songs, and I just can't imagine that.

    Of course, here I'm studying to fish. Something I will do on my own regardless of what, I am not looking for something that does not exist, I am trying to find the finest, and ideas on what's the best.

    I am posting here to spark some discussion on functionality. Pure pips. Pushing the envelope. Vegas system states it could net 25000 pips on GBP alone a year. Is that the limit on a trading? Is there a limit on the number of pips it's possible to get? Why don't you push the envelope? Just because a guy somewhere is averaging 50 000 pips a year, does not mean I cant create 70 000. I think there is a real split in this company, involving individuals who are conservative, and enjoy getting into a place where they are happy, and others like me who will never stop.

    My friend says he will stop trading after he makes a few thousand. I won't ever stop, and I won't ever stop trying to do more, in every kind of money making egy, trading and otherwise, because it's my passion. It's fun.

    So the entire point is that there's a man out there producing more pips than you. What can you do to be better? Why woulnd't you would like to?

    Thank you for your posts with this interesting (for me) topic
    Wonderful! I believe there are so many parallels to trading in life. It's as if every film, narrative, faith etc., is hoping to drop the tip, but most of the time we just don't get it. Just one you can relate to, I am convinced: it was when Johnny gave up his dependence on things he thought were serving himand became truly enabled, he managed to enjoy life and be successful in every way.

    And yes. Why put limits? You're a man after my own heart!

  5. #15
    LOL. I parrellel trading.

    In life, you will find lots of held beliefs like religion, that people hold to no matter what.

    Individuals generally do what other people do, and feel uneasy doing differently.

    People constantly, ALWAYS make errors.

    People always Wind up dead.

    And many more


    Thanks for the good posts. I ought to have a look at your book.

    Trading can be addictive.... put down the crack pipe!

  6. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    LOL. I parrellel trading to life.

    In life, there are lots of held beliefs such as religion, that individuals hold to no matter what.

    Individuals generally do what others do, and feel uneasy doing otherwise.

    People constantly, ALWAYS make errors.

    People always Wind up dead.

    And a Lot More


    Thanks for the good articles. I ought to take a look at your book.

    Trading may be addictive.... put down the crack pipe!
    Don't talk to me about errors! Aargh! If I could rewind occasionally!
    But so long as you understand, they've served their purpose.

    OK, has to leave the addiction for now - you to your own songs, me to my artwork. See you later.

  7. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    I'm very conscious that more than compliing matters can be counter productive. I have been working with Rob Booker, and there is not any doubt that I'm already setup to do very nicely with the simplest most effective kind of trading there's. And I'm disciplined enough to follow along.
    I am doing fairly well with the Vegas stuff. I've overcome most of my initial confusion and it all seems pretty simple now. However, I truly have the need to figure out this stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    I am posting here to spark some discussion on functionality. Pure pips. Pushing on the envelope. Vegas system says it could net 25000 pips on GBP alone per year.
    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    But it is something which is profoundly intriguing to me.
    The intellectual challenge of this material is why I can not tear myself away. Mathematically, it's got it all: Waves, chaos, fractals, statistics, game theory, you name it. A few weeks ago I posted something about heading for that 100% win rate, together with a number of the nontraditional sorts of analysis I've been wanting (they all explain a lot of market behaviour ). I've been checking out cool things like:Signal analysis (waveform, spectral, harmonic, filters) Chaos theory (attractors, bifurion, Poincaire sections) Currency triples, 1 pair as indior for another pair, entire market as a ball-and-spring system Hard constraints on price change over time Momentum-based position stacking My latest (tentative) finding is that given any bar chart and MA interval, if you plot the price change for each bar against the shift in the MA to the identical bar, the data points bounce around inside a challenging border with what seems to be an attractor at the center. I am thinking this may explain the achievement of tunnel methods and also much of price action analysis. I should be able to use this to forecast slowing momentum 100% once the boundary is hit, but this will not make me money. I am now working on the best way best to forecast crossovers between negative and positive price change.

    Sorry, I am enthusiastic about this stuff. I feel like an idiot for putting my money in mutual funds and crap all these years. It doesn't happen frequently in one's adult life for something this large to come into focus.

  8. #18
    Mike you've touched on a subject I have been singing.

    Conventional Technical analysis obviously still works, is simple, and is sufficient for many men and women. But men like me and you are not pleased with pips in the bank. We want to visit the extremes and focus on performance.

    The principal goal I have been speaking about from the beginning is that. If your trading platform has a reasonable SL, and you have a win percentage of not less that 95%, then you can dramaticly improve your position dimensions.

    To a people, the concepts in trading are hard enough without fractals etc.. .

    Simple works and ought to be how you learn how to trade in the beginning. But do not listen to the naysayers, the market changes behaviour with time, certain. But who says you can't figure that into your analysis? We are not looking for an easy way, we're intuitively realizing there is a better way to commerce than the way the majority of people are trading.

    You gotta do the time... the legwork

    great night and Decent luck

  9. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    Mike you have touched on a subject I have been singing.

    Traditional Technical analysis clearly still works, is simple, and is sufficient for many people. But guys just like me and you are not satisfied with pips in the bank. We want to go to the extremes and concentrate on performance.

    The main target I have been speaking about from the start is this. If your trading egy has a reasonable SL, and you also have a win percentage of not less that 95%, you can dramaticly improve your position size.

    To a people, the concepts in trading are hard enough without fractals etc.. .

    Simple works and ought to be how you learn how to trade in the beginning. But don't hear the naysayers, the market changes behavior with time, certain. But that says you can not figure that into your analysis? We're not looking for a simple way, we are intuitively realizing there is a better way to trade than the method by which the majority of people are trading.

    You have ta do the time... that the legwork

    great night and good luck
    Quite perfect! I truly enjoy your thinking ManInBlack. I believe that you are going to be a realised soul of trading soon!

    But there is actually less figuring out when you think. So many of us over-complie our trading in the search for that epic'safety' on the market. With my system you can simply see when the market changes behavior....and get that 95%.

  10. #20
    Hello ManinBlack

    Maybe you ought to start a new thread called too intrie coding and trading systems. Then other members will know what to anticipate. Should they begin reading the thread. It should also give a chance to people like Mike Jolley to talk about his theories.

    Also other members interested in new technologies and concepts could contribute. I know I have a couple things that would probably make a few men and women scratch their heads. In addition, I have a couple straightforward systems. However, I enjoyed looking at new technologies and coming up with some coding. It keeps me thinking. And I enjoyed this.

    I have spent weeks studying about new technologies and trying to come up with some way to use it in the market, just to learn it is useless. I enjoy the learning process so there. It did not matter that it was useless, since I had fun learning.

    I know some other members who are doing some pretty amazing things with coding. And I would like to see some of it.

    One of the only technologically advanced software being talked about on this forum at this time is vantage point. And it has been around for years.

    Recall your mind is like a parachute. Useless if you do not keep it open

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